is Anime killing Cartoons?

Re: is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (D B Vulpix) — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:49:40 PST

I think what's killing cartoons are the network's changing their strategies to try and aim their shows at teenyboppers who drool over boybands, kid rappers, and teen starlets. Too much live action on my cartoon channels. I excuse game shows though.

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feeds@kickapps.com (sonicsfan1991) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:49:05 PST

(it's only just recently that these guys are working out their creativity. They've had cartoons in the past, but it's just now that they're going lengths to create their own stories and movies at this point in time when they haven't had the chance prior)

i agree that's why i said they seem fresh in the game, yet they are starting strong. actually ... i find their movies and tv series more fun than japanese ones, the problem with japanese drama is they fantasise a lot, koreans are more natural in their acting .....although japan still out ranks them in cartoons.

(Not to mention they obviously sport the talent to handle the many different art forms of Western Cartoons and oh yes, some Japanese cartoons, too. I don't think you're giving Koreans enough credit.)

I truely respect them, but i won't go...

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feeds@kickapps.com (D B Vulpix) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:40:22 PST

Since we're still on Korea. I watched that squirrel cartoon all the way through...well at least all 26 episodes on youtube.

But I DON'T KNOW WHATS GOING OOOON. Please, anyone, if you understand any of it just....i dunno give me a summary or something. I know its propaganda but for some reason I ...actually like it? I'd probably hate it if I could understand it.

Re: is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (NeoRemington373) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:33:14 PST

sonicsfan1991 wrote:
(See, what did I tell ya? Huffy)
who's huffy?
well anyway about your debate, the japanese produce better animes than the koreans, sorry but that's the truth. they have better planning, they know where to get the right support and how to mange better. i haven't seen a single korean work that surpasses the top japanese animation, take this for an example... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENR6vUqeZpo&feature=related
and there's better animations than this, such as ghost in the shell and macross plus.
the koreans are animating for the west, that's as far as they went world wide. not a lot of people know...

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feeds@kickapps.com (sonicsfan1991) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:47:41 PST

(See, what did I tell ya? Huffy)
who's huffy?
well anyway about your debate, the japanese produce better animes than the koreans, sorry but that's the truth. they have better planning, they know where to get the right support and how to mange better. i haven't seen a single korean work that surpasses the top japanese animation, take this for an example... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENR6vUqeZpo&feature=related
and there's better animations than this, such as ghost in the shell and macross plus.
the koreans are animating for the west, that's as far as they went world wide. not a lot of people know koreans make anime and manga even, that's how closed up they are, unless they advance their...

Re: is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (NeoRemington373) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:42:33 PST

sonicsfan1991 wrote:
japan was more sucessful in advertising its products (anime - manga - movies - music) it also seems to support its artists more so than the koreans support theirs. don't get it the wrong way, it just seems japan has more money to make it big. also i didn't see a lot of korean anime or manga that can surpass japanese animation, their artists really need better motivations and care if they want to walk that path.

anyway, let me understand this, koreans aren't trying to out run japan?
well i don't know of their total history, it just seemed like they were competeing to me.

Actually, there's just as much horror stories on the lack of support or proper wage and health care for many Japanese artists who work in grouped studios. One of the prime reasons Japan IS making money in the animated industry is because they have...

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feeds@kickapps.com (sonicsfan1991) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:14:03 PST

(Also, I'm a little curious on what you mean by Korea's "lack of " when it comes to resources and experience in terms of animation)

japan was more sucessful in advertising its products (anime - manga - movies - music) it also seems to support its artists more so than the koreans support theirs. don't get it the wrong way, it just seems japan has more money to make it big. also i didn't see a lot of korean anime or manga that can surpass japanese animation, their artists really need better motivations and care if they want to walk that path.

anyway, let me understand this, koreans aren't trying to out run japan?
well i don't know of their total history, it just seemed like they were competeing to me.

Re: is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (NeoRemington373) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:58:27 PST

sonicsfan1991 wrote:
i know japanese study korean in their schools, and the languages are close. there's so much similarity between the two i thought they were in good terms, but i can understand if the koreans are being prideful against the japanese, they do measure up to everything japan can do. in manufactering, construction and development and also in pop culture... you can notice korea racing with japan,...
there's even korean manga and anime, the art and style isn't that far from the japanese but we hardly see the well made korean products leave their land.. japan has the upper hand though, it has the resources, advertisement and experiance korea lacks now... but who knows of the future.

That's because Korea and Japan are essentially neighbors. There's only just water between us. They're able to influence/inspired and expore/import or whatever...

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feeds@kickapps.com (D B Vulpix) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:12:29 PST

Brazillian Rip-Off makes me laugh

Ratatoing

The Little Cars

The Little Panda Fighter

Re: is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (darkwinguk) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:11:56 PST

*logs in and tries again*

Because some exec somewhere decided that anime seems uber-popular these days, so their cartoons might as well emulate them.

DW

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feeds@kickapps.com (sonicsfan1991) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:49:00 PST

(It's a powerful issue that has made Koreans very prideful of their country. Research and you can read more between the animosity of the Koreans and Japanese. Hell, I've heard they even argued over whose country's name would go first on the title for the 2002 World Cup! )

i know japanese study korean in their schools, and the languages are close. there's so much similarity between the two i thought they were in good terms, but i can understand if the koreans are being prideful against the japanese, they do measure up to everything japan can do. in manufactering, construction and development and also in pop culture... you can notice korea racing with japan,...
there's even korean manga and anime, the art and style isn't that far from the japanese but we hardly see the well made korean products leave their land.. japan has the upper hand though, it has the resources, advertisement and experiance korea...

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feeds@kickapps.com (NeoRemington373) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:55:01 PST

Psxphile wrote:
Oooh!... god damn it Neo, when I came to I realized I've been mesmerized by TVTropes for the last hour and a half thanks to that link of yours!

can't... stop... clicking... links....

You keep clicking 'em until you're immune to their lure, dearie.

Huh, I didn't know this! That sounds alot like the premise of Code Geass where the Japanese was taken over by the Brittanian Empire, stripped of their nationality, and was called 11s and treated as second class citizens; I wonder if this is where the creators came out with the idea for CG?

It's a powerful issue that has made Koreans very prideful of their country. Research and you can read more between the animosity of the Koreans and Japanese. Hell, I've heard they even argued over whose country's name would go first on the title...

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feeds@kickapps.com (gammarallyson) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:52:15 PST

OH I certainly doubt that!

You forget that the main character had a glowing eye and a large harem by his side. XD

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feeds@kickapps.com (Full Metal Rayzor) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:19:18 PST

NeoRemington373 wrote:
Not that I support such propaganda, but the gesture is understandable. The early parts of the 20th century had the Koreans under Japanese rule; they were forced to strip and deny their cultural heritage and instead take up Japanese culture.

Huh, I didn't know this! That sounds alot like the premise of Code Geass where the Japanese was taken over by the Brittanian Empire, stripped of their nationality, and was called 11s and treated as second class citizens; I wonder if this is where the creators came out with the idea for CG?

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feeds@kickapps.com (The Turtle Guy) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:49:37 PST

Oh, pff. You just haven't troped enough. I used to trope up everyday after work, but now the stuff barely effects me anymore. I've had to move up to more powerful stuff, like AgonyBooth recaps or Cracked.com.

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feeds@kickapps.com (Sailor Rose Dust) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:39:41 PST

You can never escape TVTropes for long.

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feeds@kickapps.com (Psxphile) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:33:28 PST

Oooh!... god damn it Neo, when I came to I realized I've been mesmerized by TVTropes for the last hour and a half thanks to that link of yours!

can't... stop... clicking... links....

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feeds@kickapps.com (NeoRemington373) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:16:56 PST

A Squirrel and Hedgehog Speaking of Korean anime. I started watching this yesturday, no subtitles so I have NO idea whats going on but...I kind of get the gist of it. It's propaganda no doubt with the Koreans being the squirrels and Hedgehogs and...I THINK the Japanese are the weasels and mice/rats.
The Japanese get mowed down in the hundreds every episode but so far only 2 Koreans have been shown to die and both have been from kamikaze.

Not that I support such propaganda, but the gesture is understandable. The early parts of the 20th century had the Koreans under Japanese rule; they were forced to strip and deny their cultural heritage and instead take up Japanese culture. This ruling went on for decades,...

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feeds@kickapps.com (D B Vulpix) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:40:40 PST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMzS09DUlek

Re: is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (Legionfan44) — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:22:52 PST

Hybrid Project Alpha wrote:
It's just a fad, all cartoons will be 3D CGI in the next decade anyway

NO, NO They won't many animtion fans DO NOT LIKE CGI, 2D animation will never die, it will just be used less frequently & then theres places like Japan that will always use more 2d then CGI for there toons because thats what they prefere to use. But yea Disney even said they would Release 1 2D Animated Film a year in theatres ,(starting this year with Princess & the frog) that doesn't sound like 2d is Dying to me

is Anime killing Cartoons?

feeds@kickapps.com (sonicsfan1991) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:35:37 PST

here's a topic that's been bothering me, i was talking to my friend about this cool new animated cartoon based on the popular game dead space. and she said that it's not well drawn, that japanese anime is better than westren cartoons because of the character design and style.

here's a video on dead space the cartoon movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqTFcsnY9S4
i don't understand her, it's beautiful, i seen it like 10 times already and i still love it. what's not to love?

what do you think? is anime always gonna ruin cartoons? are cartoons never gonna surpass anime no matter how hard they try??