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        <![CDATA[ http://www.jesus-is-savio...America/devils_music.htm


If this isn&#39;t real, its a REALLY awful trolling attempt. And if it is real.........


Well, you could say this is part of the reason why I continue to reject Christianity and organized religion in general.......


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  <strong class="quote-title">GT the Magikoopa wrote:</strong>
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  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.igarchive.com/news/?a=79577&amp;n=Mass%3A+We+Pray+-+Debut+Trailer">Guys, do -I- have a game for you.</a>
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<img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif" alt="image"> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Legionfan44 wrote:</strong>
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  But in all honesty to say either science or religion are right all the time is just small minded &amp; iggnorent, one reason im not that fond of the Amish or
  Atheist, also no offense to people who are of either group, just my personal openion.)
  <br>
  <br>
</blockquote>atheists are speaking more truth than others, you should understand without them, without their doubts and strong voices we won&#39;t have
freedom.
<br>
i&#39;m not saying religion is wrong or right, it&#39;s just religion can be used for great obressive evil. so it&#39;s contrast can be used for good.
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<a title="http://www.igarchive.com/news/?a=79577&amp;n=Mass%3A+We+Pray+-+Debut+Trailer" target="_blank" href="http://www.igarchive.com/news/?a=79577&amp;n=Mass%3A+We+Pray+-+Debut+Trailer">http://www.igarchive.com/news/?a=79577&amp;n=Mass%3A+We+Pray+-+Debut+Trailer</a>
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oh my that game... GT that was very funny.... you know... ]]></description>

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  <strong class="quote-title">Unknown wrote:</strong>
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  (This post is missing and can not be restored)
</blockquote>Well not if you don&#39;t try. <span style="font-style: italic;">Believe</span> you have the power to restore it!
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  <strong class="quote-title">Unknown wrote:</strong>
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</blockquote>Wow, it&#39;s just like 2005 all over again! <img src="http://www.lighthead.net/mf/icons/smilies/biggrinshaded.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="image"> 
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			<description><![CDATA[ wow,i think this is not joke,but cool. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <a target="_blank" href="http://www.igarchive.com/news/?a=79577&amp;n=Mass%3A+We+Pray+-+Debut+Trailer">Guys, do -I- have a game for you.</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m not religious, but dc talk is awesome
<br>
<br>
Also yeah a lot of christians completely miss the point of christianity, they really need to chill out ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ To quote the intro from <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">What If I Stumble</span></span> by dcTalk (whom the site laughably
denounce as evil simply because one of the guys in it was quoted as saying he&#39;d love to hang out with Marilyn Manson and discuss 80&#39;s music with him):
<br>
<br>
&quot;The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians, who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door, and deny Him by
their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.&quot;
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<br>
I think that says more than I can.
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			<description><![CDATA[ Satan is my homeboy! <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="image">

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">benjaminnui wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Some of the usage of bible excerpts here is pretty nauseating
  <br>

  <blockquote>
    These guys could do a lot for the world by actually following anything Jesus said instead of propping up his name as a mascot who hates whatever they hate.
    <br>
  </blockquote>That seems to be the entire point of this web site, looks like~
  <br>
</blockquote>Yup, it appears so too. Sad, because although I won&#39;t deny my negative opinion of it, I&#39;ve also met some awesome people who were
Christians too. It goes both ways, I&#39;ve just been unfortunate in having met a lot more fundies than the sane ones.
<br>
<br>
P.S. How goes the chat rping Box? Chat hasn&#39;t and refuses to work for me under any browser, hence why you haven&#39;t seen me in there, its not a matter of
having left v_v
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			<description><![CDATA[ Some of the usage of bible excerpts here is pretty nauseating
<br>

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  These guys could do a lot for the world by actually following anything Jesus said instead of propping up his name as a mascot who hates whatever they hate.
  <br>
</blockquote>That seems to be the entire point of this web site, looks like~
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			<description><![CDATA[ According to God and all of his followers. It could just as easily be the exact opposite, who knows?
<br>
<br>
But if Satan is to represent evil, does that suggest rebellion itself is an act of evil? After all, that&#39;s his most famous act, defying and rebelling
against God and Heaven, after all. And the same act which sent him to hell. By that logic, Swanson, does that suggest that questioning authority is evil? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Hukos wrote:</strong>
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    However, I find your analogy incorrect, considering how one interprets Satan&#39;s position in terms of Christianity. Satan is often viewed as evil because
    that&#39;s what&#39;s pushed down our throats (Or that being simply my opinion, take no offense to this statement please x.x). So whether or not its
    actually praising an evil entity is subjective honestly.
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
  </blockquote>
  <br>
  <br>
  No, Satan, in Christianity, is explained as the embodiment of evil. It&#39;s Satan that causes all of the bad things in the world. Genocide, racism, death,
  etc. all come from Satan, he is viewed as evil, because that is what he is. Evil incarnate.
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  <strong class="quote-title">Veckums wrote:</strong>
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    Gonna have to disagree with ya. Just because something reference Satan lyrically doesn&#39;t make it actually satanic.
  </blockquote>
  <br>
  <br>
  Where do you read me saying that? o.o I said that it is not crazy to say that music that <strong>explicitly praises</strong> satanism does so.
  <br>
  <br>
  <br>
</blockquote>Misinterpretation on my part in that case, sorry.
<br>
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    Often times its simply used as rebellious imagery (Take for instance, a lot of underground metal bands that do this, often times many are agnostic or
    atheist and not satanic but use the imagery anyway because its an obvious symbol of rebellion).
  </blockquote>
  <br>
  <br>
  I am totally for rebellion against society. But I am for rebellion towards something smarter and better.
  <br>
  <br>
  There are examples he lists that are totally nauseating. It&#39;s hard to use... ]]></description>

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  Gonna have to disagree with ya. Just because something reference Satan lyrically doesn&#39;t make it actually satanic.
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Where do you read me saying that? o.o I said that it is not crazy to say that music that <strong>explicitly praises</strong> satanism does so.
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  Often times its simply used as rebellious imagery (Take for instance, a lot of underground metal bands that do this, often times many are agnostic or atheist
  and not satanic but use the imagery anyway because its an obvious symbol of rebellion).
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<br>
<br>
I am totally for rebellion against society. But I am for rebellion towards something smarter and better.
<br>
<br>
There are examples he lists that are totally nauseating. It&#39;s hard to use the religiously offensive nature of it in debate, so I won&#39;t. Let&#39;s get
this to some neutral cultural context and suppose that the band praises some other cultural notion of an evil entity, such as... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Veckums wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  These guys could do a lot for the world by actually following anything Jesus said instead of propping up his name as a mascot who hates whatever they hate.
  <br>
  <br>
  That said, he does have SOME points. I mean it is NOT crazy to call music that actually explicitly praises satanism as such. But he overgeneralizes so much
  and brings irrelevancies into it.
  <br>
  <br>
  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/johnny_cash-exposed.htm">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/johnny_cash-exposed.htm</a>
  <br>
  <br>
  Get away from the guilt by association and repetition of his main point, and there is something there. This Danzig logo sounds ridiculously offensive and
  stupid.
</blockquote>Gonna have to disagree with ya. Just because something reference Satan lyrically doesn&#39;t make it actually satanic. Often times its simply used
as... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ These guys could do a lot for the world by actually following anything Jesus said instead of propping up his name as a mascot who hates whatever they hate.
<br>
<br>
That said, he does have SOME points. I mean it is NOT crazy to call music that actually explicitly praises satanism as such. But he overgeneralizes so much and
brings irrelevancies into it.
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/johnny_cash-exposed.htm">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/johnny_cash-exposed.htm</a>
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Get away from the guilt by association and repetition of his main point, and there is something there. This Danzig logo sounds ridiculously offensive and
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">HyperSonic2003 wrote:</strong>
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  You do realize...you can practice Christianity the way you want to, Hukos. And what Hiro0015 said...radicals are...well, radical. lol
</blockquote>Yes but that doesn&#39;t change the fact that I&#39;m still not a Christian and haven&#39;t been since I was born (No offense to anyone else
around here) :P
<br>
And yeah, I&#39;m well aware of radicals, plenty of them live around me........ <img src="http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/tired.gif" alt="image">
<br>
<br>

<blockquote>
  <br>
  How did you even come across this site?
</blockquote>I saw it posted on another forum I visited.
<br>

<blockquote>
  Well Hukos. Being A religious person I find some of your post somewhat offensive, but as an american I respect your right to say what ever the hell you want.
  <br>
  <br>
  But as said, Radicals, are radical, wich makes them insane, people can take anything to a radical point,... ]]></description>

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If this isn&#39;t real, its a REALLY awful trolling attempt. And if it is real.........
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Well, you could say this is part of the reason why I continue to reject Christianity and organized religion in general.......
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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Hukos)</author>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:45:38 PST</pubDate>
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