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Ashide Bunni		#61	[-]
Posts: 5020 (08/12/2009 11:51 AM) oro? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	^^So, what if the hypothetical reboot turns out to be a vast improvement in the quality of the franchise than in the last 15 years?
Rishi		#62	[-]
Posts: 3541 (08/12/2009 11:56 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Reboot the damn franchise with a game to be released on June 23, 2011. Sonic's had green eyes for enough time now.
kaze the chao		#63	[-]
Posts: 2362 (08/12/2009 2:04 PM) Evil on Board Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ashide Bunni wrote: ^^So, what if the hypothetical reboot turns out to be a vast improvement in the quality of the franchise than in the last 15 years? That's probably never going to happen. Everytime we get screenshots of something that looks pretty, the game usually ends up quite the opposite. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people that always think, "Maybe they'll get it right this time!"
Quiksilver09		#64	[-]
Posts: 12 (08/12/2009 2:35 PM) I SPAM LIKE A NUB BCUZ I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hey, its possible. Refill Sonic Team with people that AREN'T idiots and know what they're doing. They also need to be smart, and realize WHAT IT IS that we are asking for and HOW NOT TO RUSH EVERYTHING. It would be easy to make a good Sonic game. All that those idiots need to do is quit caring whether the game comes out at frikkin' Christmastime or not and make a good game, and maybe listen to the public and QUIT IT WITH ALL THE NEW CHARACTERS, ALL THE DUMB GIMMICKS, AND GIVE US SOMETHING THATS REALLY SONIC.
Sailor Rose Dust		#65	[-]
Posts: 2334 (08/13/2009 11:15 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	It'd be really nice if Sega could put together a team similar to the one that reinvigorated the TF franchise with Beast Wars and Animated. *avatar courtesy of Matt Moylan's Lilformers site Created by Train Horns
LWSrocks		#66	[-]
Posts: 547 (08/13/2009 12:44 PM) Does NOT smell like socks Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Nah, they just need smart people. Check out The Sonic Challenge... My newest fic! Read it at www.sonicchallenge.piczo.com, or at The Sonic Challenge thread in Carnival Island!
Sailor Rose Dust		#67	[-]
Posts: 2337 (08/13/2009 11:48 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Like I said, people like Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio from Beast Wars and Marty Isenberg and Derrick Wyatt from Animated. *avatar courtesy of Matt Moylan's Lilformers site Created by Train Horns
sonic332		#68	[-]
Posts: 935 (08/14/2009 1:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ashide Bunni wrote: ^^So, what if the hypothetical reboot turns out to be a vast improvement in the quality of the franchise than in the last 15 years? There's still the loss of all the GOOD things they managed to come up with despite themselves over the years- and some of the characters who were actually more than half-decent. Chaos, I'm looking at you (admittedly, he isn't so much a recurring character, but a total reboot would basically axe the entire storyline of Sonic Adventure- one of the best games since the Genesis days). Admittedly, the bad sort of outweighs the good when it comes to Sega's ideas lately... but a total reboot would be like taking the way that each new Sonic game basically dumps all the great ideas they had in the last game and starts from scratch to the EXTREME. I dunno- it may just be my personal dislike of reboots talking, but I feel there's about as much chance that they can salvage Sonic WITHOUT a reboot as there is that a reboot is the only way to go. I mean, there's so much good stuff they COULD salvage if they tried, and it seems more of a waste to abandon something entirely and start over from scratch than to try to make it work. Maybe THAT'S just my inner packrat talking (honestly, you should see all the junk I have in my room!). So, yeah- a reboot may end up in a critically better game, but I'd still regret losing the actually GOOD story points- the Sonic Adventure series in particular. In this, I admit I'm probably being very foolish, but that's just the way I feel. "If you know you're going to make an idiot out of yourself in public, you might as well have fun with it!" (Grins idiotically) -Me, on my philosophy on life Me to myself: "One of these days, I'm gonna go without my Ritalin so I can come up with a Quote Of The Whenever." Last Edited By: sonic332 08/14/2009 1:25 PM. Edited 7 times.
Jeffery Mewtamer		#69	[-]
Posts: 695 (08/14/2009 4:56 PM) Sqwerl Murderer >:o Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Doing a proper reboot does not mean they cannot reintroduce all of the good stuff from old series. The idea of using the engine behind the Daytime levels in Unleashed and doing a proper remake of the original trilogy might be a good way to revitalize the series. Surely, with more than two dozen zones to recreate, making a high-speed, exploration heavy, platformer with sufficient length should not be two difficult if the proper time and energy is invested, and the story does not need much embellishment over what was found in the originals(perhaps proper cutscenes for when Sonic first meets Robotnik, Tails, and Knuckles are in order as well as cutscenes before the Scrap Brain and Death Egg boss fights). The second game of a Rebooted Series could be a proper retelling of the Chaos Saga from SA1. [i]I pledge allegiance to the whole of humanity, and to the world in which we live: one people under the heavens, indivisible, with Liberty and Equality for all.[/i]
Quiksilver09		#70	[-]
Posts: 20 (08/17/2009 6:15 PM) I SPAM LIKE A NUB BCUZ I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah. Basically, there is SO MUCH Sega could have done and could do but they're all just too lazy.
kaze the chao		#71	[-]
Posts: 2375 (08/19/2009 12:39 PM) Evil on Board Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	They're not lazy; They just need to stop shoving out Sonic games so often that get released within some months of each other every year. I'm pretty sure that for every year since SA and/or SA2 came out you can probably count two, three, maybe even four Sonic games or games with Sonic in them that came out that same year. One example of this is around 2003. Sonic Battle and Sonic Heroes came out a few days apart in January, Sonic Advance 3 around May of that same year, and I think Shadow the Hedgehog came out that November (correct me if I'm wrong on that one). Heck, I'm pretty sure Sonic Rush and Sonic2k6 were out less than a year apart from each other. I think there's too much being done at the same time, which would lead to overworked people developing games, and the vicious cylcle keeps going on and on and on.
NelStone		#72	[-]
Posts: 671 (08/20/2009 1:58 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	kaze the chao wrote: One example of this is around 2003. Sonic Battle and Sonic Heroes came out a few days apart in January, Sonic Advance 3 around May of that same year, and I think Shadow the Hedgehog came out that November (correct me if I'm wrong on that one). Heck, I'm pretty sure Sonic Rush and Sonic2k6 were out less than a year apart from each other. I think Heroes was late 2003/early 2004, Battle was early 2004, and Shadow was late 2005. Nitpicking aside, I agree with your point.
kaze the chao		#73	[-]
Posts: 2380 (08/20/2009 10:42 AM) Evil on Board Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	NelStone wrote: kaze the chao wrote: One example of this is around 2003. Sonic Battle and Sonic Heroes came out a few days apart in January, Sonic Advance 3 around May of that same year, and I think Shadow the Hedgehog came out that November (correct me if I'm wrong on that one). Heck, I'm pretty sure Sonic Rush and Sonic2k6 were out less than a year apart from each other. I think Heroes was late 2003/early 2004, Battle was early 2004, and Shadow was late 2005. Nitpicking aside, I agree with your point. Thanks. I was pretty sure I was inaccurate somewhere there, because I hadn't bothered to look up release dates for things.
Quiksilver09		#74	[-]
Posts: 35 (08/23/2009 5:19 PM) I SPAM LIKE A NUB BCUZ I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I dont get what everyone hates about Shadow game. www.sonicuniverse.yuku.com for an all-new Sonic FRPG where you can play as one of 3 classes, with more to come! PM me for a full list of features.
Ashide Bunni		#75	[-]
Posts: 5042 (08/23/2009 7:43 PM) oro? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	^^Because it's a broken game slapped with an awful concept. It was also the real beginning of the series low point in the eyes of the gaming public. I mean Sonic Heroes got some mediocre response, but Shadow was the game that got some true hate and most of it was pretty justified.
darkwinguk		#76	[-]
Posts: 544 (08/24/2009 6:57 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Although there was a certain satisfaction to obliterating all around you with Chaos Inferno (was that what it was called? Much better than Chaos Spear anyhow) when you'd had a bad day in the office I got a fair amount of fun out of it, but my basic problem (besides accidentally shooting Sonic dead a lot and wanting to do the same to Charmy) was that you were encouraged to ride vehicles. Hello? Super sonic hedgehog? Why would you do that? Plus, the idea that you could take different paths through the game and get different endings seemed a good one, until you realised how many different times you'd have to do the same darn levels in only slightly different ways. That then lost its appeal somewhat. That and if you weren't paying attention, you ended up on a route you'd already finished. Add on at the end that (although for me its hearsay as I never unlocked all the routes), having gone through this herculean effort, you end up with a cut-scene lots of people seemed to dislike and that none of it is "canon" (insofar as anything is "canon" in Sonic) anyhow and it seems a big waste of time. I'd still pick it up occasionally I think, if I ever picked up my GC at all. DW I am the terror that flaps in the night. I am the substantial and inescapable penalty for early withdrawal. I am Darkwing Duck!
NelStone		#77	[-]
Posts: 679 (08/24/2009 12:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Oh man, the story, especially the non-canon endings, was awful. One would be something like "I'm the ultimate life form! This is WHO I AM!" and the next would be a minor difference like "I am the ultimate hedgehog! This is WHO I AM!". And some of the good and bad missions had nothing to do with the overall story. Not to mention the generic level music (barring a few exceptions) and loads of unnecessary swearing. Otherwise, it played okay.
Rishi		#78	[-]
Posts: 3624 (08/24/2009 12:25 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Quiksilver09 wrote: I dont get what everyone hates about Shadow game. Probably how it's crap from start to finish.
John Taylor		#79	[-]
Posts: 2707 (08/24/2009 2:01 PM) If I was in World War 2, They'd call me Spitfire. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Why I hate the Shadow game. - Useless guns and god awful handling vehicles - Terrible story that contradicts itself from one scene to the next - No Eggman Lackey ending - No real improvement in controls, camera and quality from Heroes. You know, the 3 main things wrong with all of the 3D games since 1999. - No "Green Hill Bad Future" style level, I mean what the first level should have been is Green Hill, but its raining and there is fire and there is a loop de loop you clear and lightning strikes it and it explodes. Why I like the Shadow game - I got a sick thrill from destroying things - Level design was a step forward - Bosses were an improvement - Soundtrack was nice [url]http://profile.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance[/url] [img]http://card.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance.png[/img]
Blue the Echidna		#80	[-]
Posts: 338 (08/24/2009 5:42 PM) and sometimes his chao, Tiny. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The thing I hate about Shadow is that he's somehow manages to take over a forum topic about TAILS. Come on! Let's stop the Shadow hatin', and reconvene the Tails lovin'! I think Tails stopped being cute when he developed a back-bone. You knew where you stood with him when he futta-futta-futta'd his way behind Sonic. And he was useful! Sonic: "Tails, you're invincible. Be a dear and destroy Eggman's incredibly dangerous mech while I move out of the way."

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